June 2009 to February 8, 2011 | 02/10/11 to 04/28/11 | 04/29/11 to 06/03/11 | 06/04/11 to 10/13/11 | 10/15/11 to 11/21/11 | 11/22/11 to 02/07/12 | Current
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November 14, 2011- Amount of fluid has increased... 700cc drawn this morning. Dr. Hadley wants to discuss Bumble during rounds with the doctors to see what they think about sending him home. Tentative plan to pick him up at 3pm but wait for call. BUMBLE'S HOME- Peed at 7pm and pooped a 7:20pm. Got a big drink of water but stopped him so he wouldn't drink too much. Ate a full dinner. Wanted to run but that's not happening. The pack wanted to say hi... a few peeked over the top of the Dutch door and were then shooed away. Now lying on his side and sleeping peacefully. Respirations at 8:30pm - 23 while sleeping. Sent home with enough huber needles, stopcocks and tubing to remove fluid 3 times. Asked vet to order supplies so we have enough on hand. Appointments for draining on Wednesday at 9:40am and Friday at 12:40pm Panting. |
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November 13, 2011- 400cc drawn this morning. The fluid's cloudy... they're going to run a test tomorrow to determine whether there's chyle present. Please no... Still wondering about lung damage if this has been a chronic condition that was missed back in February. When Dr. Hadley looked at his lungs, she did NOT note the fibrous scaring that can happen due to the irritating nature of the chyle. She said things could definitely be worse at this stage and to stay positive... it can take weeks or even months for him to "dry up". So cautious optimism. He's starting to rub up against them and trying to kiss their faces... my lover boy. They're seeing the real Bumble when he feels well. Plan's still on for tomorrow. I may ask them whether it's advisable to lightly sedate him when we're reunited... I don't want any exuberance to dislodge that port. |
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November 12, 2011- They used a longer needle to get
the port working and were able to draw off 1200cc of fluid.
(Just over 1/2 of a 2 liter bottle of soda/pop.) I worried about how
much was in there and whether he was having any problems breathing
through the night. It's a lot of fluid but Dr. Hadley said this was
2 days worth so he's doing ok for this stage of recovery. The fluid
is blood tinged but there's no chyle so far. Hopefully the new
pathways are beginning to form so the lymph stuff can go where it
should. Yeah, too much info but some day someone else may be going
through this and want all the details when searching for chylothorax. |
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November 11, 2011- Unfortunately, they were only able to draw off 25cc of fluid and there's some mild to moderate pleural effusion. The port could be kinked or out of position. Real disappointed it's not working properly but things don't always go quiet as planned. Do they ever reopen? I'm glad we didn't bring him home today. They'll monitor him tonight to see if his breathing rate increases or becomes heavy and tap him again if necessary. They'll try the port again tomorrow morning to see if it might shift and allow for drainage again. Even with this "bump in the road" they'll always first try the port before doing a tap just in case it opens up again. |
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November 10, 2011- Still at home. As things stand
right now, we plan to pick him up on Sunday. Drawing the fluid from
the port is not something I can do here at home. We called at 8am to
see who's handling calls in the GT area this weekend. Dr. J is out
of town until Sunday... and the vet on call is the one we had a
problem with. In all fairness, that vet may have just been having a
bad day but she later admitted that Panda would not have had
emergency surgery until the following day anyway. In other words,
that vet was unable to provide the emergency care needed. That just
isn't acceptable so hopefully we can avoid a situation like that
again. |
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November 10, 2011- They postponed the decision on releasing him until tomorrow morning. Dr. Hadley had a late surgery and they want to see how much fluid they draw off in the morning. They don't want to send him home too soon... I told her that *I* don't want him to come home too soon. I need to call to see who's handling the weekend emergencies. Unfortunately my vet was on call last weekend so won't be on call this one. There is at least one vet I will not use... when Panda's bladder sutures failed and she was in so much pain, that particular vet said OESs just don't tolerate pain well and did not take us seriously. Never again. If there is any question about him being ready to come home, I'd rather he stay an extra day or two. He did eat some green beans tonight. He's on oral pain meds only and it's controlling the pain. So... if he's released tomorrow, one option might be for us to rent a room and stay down there until Saturday night or Sunday morning and have fluid drawn off before before we leave just to be sure he'd be good until Monday morning. I need to talk this over with my vet and the vets there to see what's best. |
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November 9, 2011- He's been sitting up in his kennel this morning. Gone out to potty... Stephanie noticed he doesn't like the wet grass. No diarrhea but he's not eating yet. Sending out cooked zucchini and green beans to see if it will help get him start eating. They aren't too concerned at this point saying the pain meds can cause this. They drew 500cc of fluid at 8 hours... it had been around 400cc at 4 hour intervals after surgery so the volume has decreased a bit. They may now be able to space out the times they remove fluid. The incision on his side/chest is the most painful. They'll try to drop his pain medication and transfer him over to oral pain meds possibly by tonight. Stephanie said she'll talk with Drs. Nelson and Hadley to see if a visit would be beneficial to him. So for now, he's about where they would expect him to be. There are two 10cm incisions on his right side. If the fluid continues to decrease over the next couple of days and if the pain is managed with oral meds, AND all continues to go well, he may be able to come home as soon as Friday. :') They're moving toward drawing fluid every 12 hours now. I'll need to monitor respiration and also observe his breathing pattern for any signs that he needs to have fluid removed and any signs of infection. They'll be sending him home with supplies to drain the port but it will be done at Dr. J's office... hopefully just once week for 3 weeks and then the draining will stop. Stephanie said he's brighter tonight. He has not started eating and I was told he may not until he gets home if it's due to stress. The diarrhea did stop but it may be because he's got no food going through. Keep your fingers crossed that he can come home by Friday and that we can get food going through him at a normal rate. All 75 intradermal allergens and the RAST panel again came back negative on October 5th. As a last ditch effort on the allergy front, I sent saliva in for the Nutriscan food allergy testing back on October 24th and the results came back today. It's been almost impossible to tell what he might be allergic too (the reason I wonder if this condition has anything to do with the itching). I thought that if the Nutriscan didn't identify a food allergy, it might tell us what foods he could eat. If anyone wants to see what they send, it looks like this- http://oesusa.com/Bumble-Nutriscan102411.pdf He has medium IgA reaction to beef but maybe eggs will be okay? Might be a little something we can start with to entice him to eat. |
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November 8, 2011- Surgery scheduled for 9:30am. There is not
enough known about this condition to give a prognosis at this point.
MSU has had a success rate of 75-80% in eventually getting the lymph
fluid to stop entering the chest cavity. Bumble's has likely been a
chronic problem though that has also waxed/waned like his skin
problems. They have to find the little ducts in order to seal them
off and that can be difficult. Expected to be a 2 hour surgery and
it will include the three steps (removal of part of the
pericardium). I'll post again when I know more which will probably
be in the early afternoon. Cisterna chyli ablation with thoracic duct ligation (CCA-TDL) and pericardectomy.
http://www.vetmed.wisc.edu/dss/ChyloThoraxTrial/page3.php The surgery has been completed and Bumble's in the critical care
unit so he can be closely monitored. He's receiving good pain
medication and will likely sleep the rest of the day. I was told he
tolerated the anesthetic pretty well. They did not do the CT scan
after all... it was decided that it wasn't as effective in locating
the leakage. Dr. Hadley told me the surgery went well and there were no
complications. Bumble's where they would expect him to be. They've
drawn fluid through the port and it's working properly... there
wasn't a lot and it looked normal... nothing unexpected. The way
we'll come to know whether this surgery was successful is if the
drainage gradually begins to taper off and eventually stop over the
next few weeks. That will indicate that the leaks have been closed.
That's what we'll be hoping for! I asked the doctor whether she could tell if there had been any lung damage. She said that subjectively his lungs looked to be in good shape. I also asked whether lymph fluid in the chest cavity could in any way be related to the 2+ years of itching, physically hot areas on his skin and pyoderma. (Two intradermal allergy tests and three RAST tests over this period of time had been negative for every single thing.) She said it seems unlikely but it's something she'll discuss with Dr. Rosser, Bumble's dermatologist. She said there just isn't enough known about Chylothorax so it's something to look into a little further. |
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November 7, 2011- Tiffany has been the student monitoring him up
until this morning when he was transferred to the soft tissue
section. She said he'd been panting, felt that it may be from
stress. She's observed him in the early morning while he's sleeping
and she said his breathing pattern is that of a normal dog. The
doctor this morning mentioned his panting also. They want to do both the CT scan and surgery with one sedation so that will be tomorrow. The patient lineup depends on the severity of the cases that have come in over the weekend. Dr. Creighton said last night the success rate is up to 75%... one thing in Bumble's favor is that they haven't had to tap his chest again. There's still fluid in there but they didn't believe it's enough to cause discomfort. The plan today is more x-rays, another ultrasound and he'll be spending time with cardio for a work up there to see if there are any heart problems. Staying away is killing me... He has diarrhea... likely due to the stress. Not eating well. Put on antibiotics just in case and will add fluids if needed. Will retest to be certain he doesn't have heartworms. |
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November 6, 2011- Wondering how much damage has been done to his
lungs. Have been reading everything I can get my hands on.
Some stuff is bleak... more recent information is more encouraging.
Morris Animals Foundation funding to study the condition, University
of Wisconsin clinical trial in 2008? (copyright date), College of
Veterinary Surgeons seem to offer more hope.
http://www.acvs.org/AnimalOwners/HealthConditions/SmallAnimalTopics/Chylothorax |
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November 6, 2011- Back in February, his "discomfort" breathing and his recurring pyoderma were what sent us quickly down to MSU to see the dermatologist. Nothing has ever been picked up with a stethoscope until Nov. 4th. The odd breathing wasn't constant and his energy level increased. He has always had healthy looking pink gums. I could post a video of Halloween where the dude was chasing his purple pumpkin all over the living room. But there were times when he was exercise intolerant. But NOT in the past several months but over the past couple of weeks his energy has gone down a little. He's been so happy and playful. The local vet was shocked to see the x-rays on Friday. Bumble's scheduled for a CT scan on Monday and surgery Monday or Tuesday IF they don't find a cause. Wrote to Dr. Linder to ask her to touch base with MSU doctors about his diet. I'd been monitoring his weight... 88 pounds was a good weight for him. He was 87 on Friday at the vet... he was 88.8 here in late October. So I would just boost his food a little. But they drew 2 liters of fluid from his chest cavity... so he's lost weight and is down to 83.3. |
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November 4, 2011- X-rays look bad. Common
landmarks can't even been seen in one x-ray... like the heart an
diaphragm. Treat locally or go down to MSU... leave now or head down
in the morning. NO QUESTION... no way in hell was I waiting
until tomorrow morning. Headed down to MSU after picking up
his food and a few things.
Diagnosis= Chylothorax. :'( They removed 2 liters of chyle from his chest cavity. Have to wait for tests to be done on Monday. An uncommon condition... of course. OMG... was this the cause of his heavy breathing in February????? We can't be so focused on ponies that stripes are missed... Rented a room at 2am so I could boil potatoes and fry up his ostrich. Back on the road heading home at 4:30am. What a wretched night... |
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Two videos of breathing.
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November 3rd, 2011- Something's wrong. |
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For the rest of the pack starting this evening...
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October 31
Bath
today with Duoxo Looks really good. Had
licked front feet a little today. Not sure if there was any
chewing so I trimmed/rounded the hair up so I can tell next time.
His hair is growing out on the left leg that was shaved (surgery) so
it was probably uneven on the inside because of that. There's a small bump on the middle-back of his neck... no color to it. Looks to be scar tissue or maybe a cyst? Looks to be a comedone on his back right hock- inside. Taste of the Wild High Prairie has chicken meal... "Bison, lamb meal, chicken meal, egg product..." We were going to hold off on opening the bag for a week or so but opened anyway. Picked up Taste of the Wild Sierra Mountain today and packed up the High Prairie to give to Chris. Not sure what's in the natural flavor but we'll give it a try.
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October 29 Itchy at times but no sores. There are 3 tiny hard spots where he had received the intradermal injections. | ||
| October 24 Bath today with Duoxo Left ear infection... first ear problem ever. I don't have to do any more than wipe out his ears with a dry cotton ball usually. I seldom use any cleaner. I think it was due to the sweet potato. Stopped. | |||
| October 17- Breathing harder. Jim started
fixing dinners and it stopped.
Bath today with Duoxo Again tonight at 7:30pm. Had been out to potty not long before... see video. 5 minutes later he was lying on his side breathing normally. Sweet potatoes and 5 frozen green beans. |
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| October 15 Not quite as itchy. Started introducing sweet potato. | |||
June 2009 to February 8, 2011 | 02/10/11 to 04/28/11 | 04/29/11 to 06/03/11 | 06/04/11 to 10/13/11 | 10/15/11 to 11/21/11 | 11/22/11 to 02/07/12 | Current